"Come On Do The Jerk" The Righteous Brothers [64], The T-Bones Prince: 10/10 Lavish parties excluded then the guys from Queen. Talking Heads 64. Fleetwood Mac: 8/10 The Yardbirds When you look at it this way, it's not an especially inspired class, is it? The Notorious B.I.G.-Level 3 The Staple Singers: 8/10 KISS Both haven't been to the Finals. T. Rex The ninety-six greatest basketball players of all time, arranged into five tiers: Levels One through Four, then the Pantheon - the best of the best - at the very top. 165. Also, Phil Spector is probably the 'meanest' of all the HOFers in that he's a criminally insane psychopath who was unhinged for decades before murdering Lana Clarkson (a classic example being him bringing a bag of coins to a divorce hearing to make his first alimony payment to Ronnie Spector as well as his repeated assaults and death threats to her). 4/10 = Marginal 10/10 = Immortals, Legends & Icons Buffalo Springfield Posted by John R.C. Cream David Bowie: 10/10 #1 NBA community for blogging, voting in polls, taking quizzes, and public chats. Posted by Dan on Wednesday, 07/24/2013 @ 17:34pm. Crosby Stills and Nash Earlier this month, he added another distinction to his rsum as he was inducted into the Army ROTC Hall of Fame as part of the 24-member Class of 2021.. Public Enemy (Level 4) James Brown (and the Famous Flames) The Allman Brothers Band -Most influential? Outside of Madonna, 2008 was a stellar year. of all time, Simmons opensand then closes, once and for allevery major pro basketball debate. The first change I would make to this pyramid: Michael Jackson to Level 5, perhaps replacing Jimi Hendrix. They are also the MOST-COVERED Motown act of all timeand have the MOST Grammy Hall of Fame-inducted songs of ANY Motown groupand have the MOST SONGS on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's list of "The 500 Songs That Shaped Rock and Roll". AP Player of the Year Award; John R. Wooden Award; Naismith Men's College Player . The Doobie Brothers Carly Simon: 6/10, Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 05/13/2022 @ 05:01am. 194. Nirvana Muddy Waters: 10/10 "If You Can Want" The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon. After reading your comment, here's how I would fix the pyramid: Bill Simmonss new podcast breaks down the NBAs most important games, players, and teams, extending and reinventing his New York Times no. Little Richard 111. Proper evaluation of influence can certainly be biased by opinion; but overall it is rather easy to research to see historically the impact an artist had by tracking musicians that copied them, or directly cite them as major influences. I kept the same ratio. They were the forefathers of "progressive rock," after all. Dolph Schayes, 59. . 182. I'm giving him the Chris Paul memorial spot from the BoB. Duran Duran (Level 1 or 2) Not many changes to make. "You've Got The Love I Need" - J Dilla, Raekwon. Dire Straits (borerline 1/2) And HERE is where THE MIRACLES SHINE : THEY ARE SIMPLY, THE MOST-COVERED MOTOWN GROUP.AND MOTOWN ACT, PERIODOF ALL-TIME !! Just gets cut off from the top level. 36 Sly and the Family Stone The O'Jays: 7/10 Most civilized inductee? He'll end up as a Level 4 guy when his career is done, but for now, I've slotted him here. Level Three: Ramses (Yul Brynner) One of those guys that if you were up 2 with a minute left in a big playoff game and the ball found a wide open Manu from 3, everyone was sure he was nailing the shot. Adande. In fact, that statement is the only exception to the rule that Rush should even share the same sentence with that other band. KING, Posted by KING on Monday, 06/29/2015 @ 01:24am. "(You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man In You" Chuck Jackson 9/10 = All Time Greats 2. Among these are: Bill G., CCR: 9/10 Most weird inductee? DarinRG, if you've ever seen "An Evening With Kevin Smith" where he describes his trip to Prince's home, it's epic. 1986 Robert Johnson Naming your daughter after a country and picking a fan's nose are the actions of a classic whackjob. Posted by Follower on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 17:52pm, Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 17:56pm, Yeah Phillip, you're right. Sam Cooke Biggest botch Heckthe first Motown act, PERIOD. Yes Heart Give Orange. They should be upgraded too. ---------------------------------------------- Earth, Wind & Fire: 8/10 His vocal styling influenced numerous singers in the alternative and new wave scenes, from Robert Smith to David Byrne. I'm like 300 pages in and the pyramid hasn't even started, I just finished the 33 suggestions to improve the NBA after that inmediatly comes the pyramid, let me see if I can find it for you. Ray Charles didn't make his name in Rock and Roll. Wow, thanks for sharing, where do you get all this information from if I may know? Dusty Springfield And Green Day and Pearl Jam are 100% 1s if I've ever seen one. The Drifters: 10/10 The ultimate example of a band that had lots of hits but did nothing to develop rock 'n roll (Jackson Browne, John Mellencamp, Buffalo Springfield, Percy Sledge, Laura Nyro, Donovan, The Lovin' Spoonful, George Harrison, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, The Pretenders, Neil Diamond, and Randy Newman are all runners-up for the title of least qualified inductee) Level 4: Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 01/2/2019 @ 04:20am. Pat Benatar (Level 1) Beat induction year: 1986, 1988, 1994, 2014, Posted by PopeCharming on Monday, 04/21/2014 @ 23:30pm, Posted by coletrain on Wednesday, 04/30/2014 @ 08:31am, The Pyramid has been updated with this year's inductees. Santana Foo Fighters: 8/10 Future Hall of Famer Steve Kerr joins Bill to discuss a quarter-century of learning The Secret in Chicago (with Michael Jordan and Phil Jackson), San Antonio (with Tim Duncan and Gregg Popovich), and Phoenix (with Steve Nash), and then how Kerr watched it unfold during his historic run as the coach of the three-time champion Golden State Warriors. 60. Where's number 5? Jeff Beck: 7/10 9. Del Shannon: 5/10 The most "most mean" is on how the artist's relation to people. Albert King: 1, Posted by Classic Rock on Monday, 02/11/2013 @ 20:53pm. "As Bill Simmons said in his original article though, this is subjective. The Ronettes: 6/10 Subscribe: Apple Podcasts / Art19 / Spotify / Google Podcasts. Janet Jackson Demote. Robert Horry, 97. Posted by Ry Guy on Tuesday, 10/13/2015 @ 18:12pm. 3. John Lee Hooker Rage Against the Machine (Level 1 or 2) As far as the 2013 inductees are concerned and their tier placement is concerned: "Nowhere To Go- Kanye West (as the basis of his song "About An Angel"), Beanie Sigel (as "Got Nowhere"), Freeway James Taylor: 8/10 As Bill Simmons said in his original article though, this is subjective. I still have no idea how Dirk managed to get that group to the Finals and then win the whole thing. Electric Light Orchestra Here are the questions: The Dave Clark Five Kate Bush (Level 1) 72. Seriously? Def Leppard How Far Can This Version of James Harden Take the Sixers? Re: Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid Reply #15 on: June 02, 2010, 11:44:59 pm . Lincoln NO WAY should they just be at Level 3. Anyways, hope you browsed through. Most civilized inductee? I can nitpick about some of the placements, but a solid list nonetheless, I hate the Warriors but this is underselling Curry. 13. (This is an incomplete list, as songs by the Miracles continue to be covered by more artists each year) @ Follower People will still be listening to their music, hundreds, if not thousands of years from now. The J.B.'s Carole King: 5/10 Green Day is maybe a 2. Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 01/29/2015 @ 19:58pm. Anyone voted in simply because they reached a benchmark (sold lots of records, had a lot of hits, etc.) Advanced stats aren't super kind to him in terms of career win shares, but he's got a Defensive Player of the Year award, 5 All-Defense nods, 2 All-NBA appearances, and like Bosh, he's been a crucial part of the team that defined part of the decade. Lots of 1s easily are 3 and 4s. Posted by Mark on Wednesday, 05/8/2019 @ 17:32pm. Any music released from the early 90s onwards that involves a drum kit and electric guitar has been influenced by Metallica in one way or another, from commercial/stadium rock to the most inaccessible of extreme metal. Judas Priest (Level 1 or 2) Madonna should not even be there and in the pyramid's scheme she is higher that Frank Zappa and Jefferson Airplane? Posted by Follower on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 18:50pm. 7. The Cars He was the best center in the league for 5 years (yes, the competition for that title was, let's say, lacking). If Nick Drake ever gets in, he wins hands down. Dion, Posted by Paul K on Wednesday, 10/22/2014 @ 00:11am. I would say Aretha, Bowie, or Springsteen could be moved up to the top rung, Posted by Mike on Monday, 09/16/2019 @ 15:05pm. Not too many others, outside of one or two really obvious choices. Jimi Hendrix Experience: 10/10 Nate Thurmond, 51. Deep Purple: Level 3 "I Like It Like That" (Miracles song)- Bobby Vee, Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels. I agree with all the placements this year except Radiohead. 115. Grandmaster Flash & Furious Five: 8/10 But, Chris Paul has not been dealt a shit hand. IMO obviously. Jackie Wilson "Oh Be My Love"- Barbara Lewis, The Supremes, Barbara McNair. Is there anyone not in the Hall who could be a 4? He was one of the first rock and rollers to incorporate politics and social issues and he mostly did that during his solo career. Fleetwood Mac: 8/10 DEFINITELY !! You are pleased to answer anytime you want. Posted by Classic Rock on Wednesday, 12/17/2014 @ 06:51am. Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 23:38pm. Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid: Give Major Weakness of the top 10 NBA All Time. Carl Perkins: 10/10 Ray Allen [up from Level 1, below McAdoo]. Both have had three great years. It's well-researched, engaging, and I found myself discovering information about players I never knew. You are pleased to answer anytime you want. I wouldn't put KD over KG or Dirk, but he's definitely over Curry. Bob Marley, too. Heart: 7/10 N.W.A 12. ARE YOU KIDDING ME ? Rush (middle 4th) 2. Art is fluid and stuff changes. "How many artists CURRENTLY at Level 4 can ?" Jackson Browne: 7/10 10/10 = Immortals, Legends & Icons He popularized the stretch 4 in some respects as he extended his range out towards the back half of The Heatles experiment. And why couldnt it last? I can't in good conscience not include Manu in the Pyramid. Re: Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid, Quote from: Josh on June 02, 2010, 10:22:44 pm, Quote from: cheloLP on June 02, 2010, 10:18:57 pm, Quote from: Josh on June 02, 2010, 11:17:05 pm, Quote from: Josh on June 02, 2010, 11:31:51 pm, Quote from: t-mac357 on June 02, 2010, 11:38:30 pm, Privacy Notice/Your California Privacy Rights, Topic: Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid (Read 15826 times). Little Anthony and the Imperials The Four Seasons: 7/10 "Going to a Go-Go" The Rolling Stones, Phil Collins, The Hags, and Secret Affair. As Bob is the highest tier when compared to anyone who picks up an acoustic guitar and tries to sing a folkish tune. Posted by FRL on Tuesday, 01/1/2019 @ 10:05am. 117. Jeff Beck Revising lol, 95. https://www.ranker.com/list/rolling-stone-100-greatest-artists-of-all-time/music-lover 215. I might as well jump in on this poll: The Go-Go's-Level 1 Your Account; Logout; Login; Create Account; You're invited! The former MVP has adapted and evolved to become an excellent conductor of Phillys offense. Except perhaps Bon Jovi, which I would put in the sub-basement if it were within my power to do so. 26. The Pretenders (Level 2) 4/10 = Marginal Yes 1. The Police: 9/10 Wait, you'd put Bon Jovi and Journey in the top tier with the Beatles? 91. Nina Simone 7. Bobby Darin: 5/10 Also available in . SRV & Double Trouble: 7/10 "I've Been Good To You" Marshall Crenshaw, Brenda Holloway, Joe Meek, The Temptones, Ray, Goodman & Brown (The Moments), The Ones, The Temptations. It's just so overexposed and repetitive that I can no longer find any enjoyment in that type of music. Granted, I still enjoy most of the artists I've advocated during my heyday on FRL, but I simply have no time for music that overemphasizes lyrics at the expense of musicianship and technical ability. 2018 Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01/1/2019 @ 20:35pm. 162. But, he had to join a 73-win team to get there. I would definitely say Bruce Springsteen, Aretha Franklin, and David Bowie should, maybe with Pink Floyd and Neil Young right behind sometime in the near future. The DC5: 5/10 Ike and Tina Turner I forgot to factor influence. The people at the top are more of the big timers, to me. I'm just having too much fun discovering and acquiring music dating from the cylinder era up through the JFK administration. Posted by shrek on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 20:45pm. Designated for marginal acts who are considered "Borderline Hall of Famers," either because of the Zombies Factor (great career, not long enough) or the Bon Jovi Factor (very good for a long time, rarely great). But the biggest question about Harden remainsand it wont be answered until the playoffs. Not really. RHCP: 9/10 My hatred of him is well documented, but I objectively can't see him as anything more than a lower-tier Bob Dylan. "Doggone Right" Bobby Davis. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers: 9/10 63. Kiss: 7/10 The Small Faces: 6/10 Posted by Follower on Monday, 01/7/2019 @ 21:17pm. 7/10 = Solid Picks 7. Aerosmith: 9/10 The present facility was officially dedicated May 26, 1973 and has since had two additions. 190. I'm going to pull a Simmons here and admit that I swapped Kidd and Payton because a washed-up Payton barely played for the '06 Heat that won a title while Kidd was actually important to the '11 Mavs. See the rankings as for this Basketball Hall of Fame Sets set on 9/12/2021 10:02:25 PM. John Mellencamp Here is Simmons' explanation of the idea (revised for Rock and Roll): So why couldn't we transform it into a five-level pyramid -- seriously, an actual pyramid, like a replica of the Luxor casino in Las Vegas -- where elected [artists] are assigned to different levels? John Lennon: 10/10 25. Level 3 I'm not going to wade into these waters. Nine Inch Nails 6/10 = Decent Artists Just being a major influence on Bob Dylan alone, and really almost the entirety of folk-rock should at the very least put her midway up, probably higher, imho. HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES. Most unworthy inductee: Percy Sledge, Prince, Madonna, Randy Newman, Laura Nyro. 2004 130. 1 bestselling book from 2009. Peter Gabriel: 7/10 The Jackson 5 Check out the sidebar on the left for many more excursions into wormhole that is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 11. Level 1: The hierarchy in the pyramid was primarily determined by artist rankings here and here. Posted by Mike on Thursday, 02/6/2014 @ 14:58pm, 1. Bernard King, 66. Level 2 "Can You Love a Poor Boy" Bobby Vee, Softones, Gil Bernal, Ronnie Walker. "Oh Be My Love"- Barbara Lewis, The Supremes, Barbara McNair. 23. Torae, and others. It's pathetic. Does ninety-six players sound like a good number? Artis Gilmore, 87. R.E.M. 37. Press J to jump to the feed. Was this OKCs Apex Mountain? Yes, it's personal. Gail Goodrich, 100. Level Two: Im-Ho-Tep (Boris Karloff) If we are using Bill Simmons' basketball pyramid as a model, it's like saying nobody performed top-notch basketball after Wilt Chamberlain was on the scene. 12. Something was missing from their career totals. Now I'm remembering the time I went to the Country Hall of Fame and they had an exhibit on Ray Charles. I would replace Percy Sledge with another soul artist like Patti LaBelle. ), Dolly Parton, Boyz II Men, Human Nature, among many others Yes - 2 The 2011 Finals might be the single most impressive accomplishment by a NBA player in my lifetime. Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid ABA All-Time Team NBA & ABA All-Star Game All-Star Game Selections by Player All-NBA and All-NBA Team Selections by Player All-Defensive Team Selections by Player NBA Referee Awards Greg Willard Spirit Award NCAA Season Awards AP Player of the Year Award John R. Wooden Award Fats Domino: 10/10 "The Tracks of My Tears " Linda Ronstadt, Aretha Franklin, Johnny Rivers, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Mongo Santamara, Martha and the Vandellas, Bryan Ferry, Bjrns Vnner (as Ser Jag Ut Att M Bra? Please if you are tired of poverty and you want to change your status or you are already weathy and you need protection of life,wealth,properties and family member please come and join the help iluminati now and get what you need. 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