My guesses have been wrong many times, yet it is amazing how practice lessens the gap between field estimates and the actual measurements. He only uses partitions for big game. I tried to find similar pictures of each for comparison. It is kind of like shooting a 14 inch antelope. This measurement has already been accounted for in the main beam measurement. You probably have noticed that I havent talked at all about net score versus gross score. Be sure to check out these two podcast episodes for field judging reference at home or while at hunting camp. Ive made my longest two kills on elk with the .280 AIboth one shot and done. I left it out because with its gargantuan powder capacity its almost too much of a good thing. When he is facing you, look at the width of his ears. Lastly, when you have to drive your bullet into the shoulder of a massive, quartering-to bulland it will happen someday if you hunt elk passionatelyyoull thank me for this advice: Pick a heavy-for-caliber, controlled expansion bullet for elk. Silvertine kills more 400" bulls than any other hunt ranch . The Pope and Young Club awards North America's finest archery-killed wapiti by size in two categories: typical or symmetrical antlers and non-typical or unsymmetrical horns. 320 class bulls. First, I am having problems finding pics of a bull that size to show dad. It requires a true magnum-length action, and is hard on barrels. Elk 280-300" Bulls Brush Buster Mar 30, 2021 1 2 3 4 5 Next Mar 30, 2021 #1 Brush Buster Well Known Rokslider Joined Sep 21, 2017 Messages 275 Let's see some pics of legit 280-300" gross bulls! Colorado Springs, CO, USA. I am hoping for help here at the 'fire with the first problem. At 300 yards that bullet should still carry nearly 2,700 ft-lb energy, which is close to what a 180-grain .308 Winchester coughs up at the muzzle. If thats the camp you hunt from, have at it, but understand that with the .338 Remington Ultra Magnum, every time you pull the trigger you will get smacked with about 45 foot-pounds of recoil. Add these up and you get 76 inches. Disclaimer: the information above is purely for illustrative purposes and should not be taken as permission to use a particular caliber, a statement of the legality or safety of using certain calibers, or legal advice in any way. First, I start with the magic number of 200. This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks. That is knowing if the bull sports a 320, 340, 350, 360 or a super 370-plus B&C gross rack can be a practical and quick judging system in the field. Mag., and no one howls about that being too fast. Curved points with belly to them are longer. The hunt was extra special since his father, James (right), who's also a professional guide, called the big bull in for him. On the other side of the caliber scale are the .35 Whelen (.30/06 necked up) and various .375s. Good bullet design and placement seem to work just fine. A bull with 6 tines on each side is called a 6X6 ("6 by 6"). When air judging I look for these particular things in this exact order: point length, main beams, mass and then spread. Let's look at those assumptions a bit closer in the following table. FORLOH AllClima Softshell and AllClima Stretch Woven Pant Review. Hit an elk with a 175-gr. Bulls Scoring 380-400. There are several things I like to do when trying to estimate the actual measurements on a bull elk. elkkill2006 # 3957463 04/01/10. Good luck on your hunts and have fun field judging the bulls! Mag. So, I'm guessing him to be in that range you asked about. Look at the bull from the side and front. text-align: center; because the latter rolls out those wide, .338-inch diameter 250-grain bullets. 380 Bull: G1= 18, G2= 18, G3= 16, G4= 20, G5= 15. Thats 1,000 psi less than the little .22/250 Remington. What we can do is provide a framework to understand what average conditions might look like, and whether those are reasonably viable for a shot from the average shooter to harvest a elk in the fewest number of shots possible, i.e., ethically. Many times, the third points are the source of a bulls weakness. I feel that if you can estimate a bull on the hoof within 10 inches, you are a good field judge. Its faster than the 6.5-284, and more efficient than the 26 Nosler. Mag., .270 WSM, and 27 Nosler step it up a few notches, and the 6.8 Western with its fast twist barrels nudges bullet weights to the upper end of the 7mm line up. I gain the most consistency and accuracy with my field judging by actually scoring lots of antlers and, with each one, I gain more confidence. Second, I forgot which socks are my lucky ones. Multiply by 2 and you have 152. Slide up to some of the new 190-gr. For example: Fire a Nosler 168-gr. field judging Bozeman, Montana. I just read one in September's Petersons. Ya know, after looking at these pics, I think these bulls are bigger than I expected! Re: In search of pics of a 260-300 bull. Ill stick my neck out and say it: This is the best 6.5mm cartridge ever devised for hunting. His swords flared out. Its so common that it may seem a bit boring, but this is probably the most versatile elk cartridge availableso long as you choose the right bullet. If God wanted you to walk and carry things on your back, He would not have invented stirrups and pack saddles. For elk, pick a really tough bullet and if possible, pick broadside shots. AccuBond Long Range or a comparable bullet with its high B.C. I love to field judge bulls and then score them on the ground to see how close my field judging was to the real thing. Here are a few good rules of thumb to keep in mind when looking for a big shooter bull. The 7mm family hatched around 1892 with the 7x57mm Mauser and has since grown to fifteen or more. One of the most popular magnums of all time. Unless you work with a custom gun builder and handload, study factory options before choosing. border-color: #656565; This is my son's bull from a couple years ago. } So we have the 250-255 range covered, lets see one in the 255-260 . font-size: 18px; Bull elk have large, spreading antlers. It can be loaded with everything from 100-grain Sierra Hollow Points to 195-grain Berger Elite Hunters. There are big bull elk. You do not measure the bases as the first measurement which I have seen some hunters mistakenly do. All Rights Reserved. 300 Bull: G1= 14, G2= 14, G3=10, G4= 16, G5= 8. I highly recommend dissecting a bull thoroughly before deciding to harvest that animal. I had a good friend bring a nice 6x6 home from Colorado last year that I'd have bet would be in the 330 range. The tougher the terrain, the lighter. I am working up elk loads with both. Want the best cartridge for elk hunting? 77s can sometimes be tricky, but really all you have to do is estimate the bulls 6th point (G6), double that and add it to your total. Plus, widely available standard .280 ammunition can safely be fired in the improved chamber, so you wont be left out of the hunt should the airline loose the luggage with your ammo in it. Dont cripple yourself with a moderate-velocity cartridge that doesnt handle heavy, high-ballistic-coefficient projectiles well. Dean had an elk tag and I didn't, so I called for him. Its the finest all-around cartridge available for youth, women, and new shooters. What does this mean? as with all other cartridges, and in every case its been outstanding. will handle the .338 Win. It will for sure kill an elk, however, some believe that because of the larger diameter and heavier bullet, its a better elk cartridge than a .308 Winchester or .30/06. pictures? trajectory may explain how the 7mm Rem. Long brow tines usually will follow the nose and then curl or bend upward. Itll only hit 2,400 fps or so with a 225-grain bullet, so the 200- and 210-grain slugs might be the better choice. But elk stopping performance typically comes with a price: recoil. border-width: 1px; Thanks to current long-range shooting trends, hunters have more and better options than ever. And while most heavy .300 Win. His favorite Mossy Oak camo pattern is Treestand. We trot down the ridge, searching for a spot to glass the bull's position. I'd have to look up how that would differ from B&C scoring. Next, try to figure out how mature is the bull that you are looking at and keep it simple. Final analysis: Its not for everyone, but when you want to drive tough, heavy .30-caliber bullets fast, its awesome. First, the average bullet weight is encapsulated in the average muzzle energy for the .280 Remington. The tighter the cover, the shorter the rifle. Many argue this about the .28-calibers, too, but the old 7mm Remington Magnum remains, since its inception in 1962, the most popular and effective 7mm elk caliber in the mountains. Probably the most important aspect of field judging bulls is to have a solid, accurate starting place to build from. The first method is to air judge - also known as "the wing-it approach," which is based on experience and prior knowledge. When you're shopping for a rifle, the list of possible cartridges can be outright confusing. Hunting is supposed to be fun and if that is your idea of fun, you could probably have even more of it with a .378 Weatherby. Any cartridge in a caliber big enough to hit an elk hard hits you hard, too. 1. How To Score Your Elk. Performance & security by Cloudflare. Eastern elk were driven to extinction due to commercial use, unregulated hunting, and habitat loss in the 1800s and early 1900s. Paired with a sleek, wind-bucking bullet its still an outstanding choice for big bulls at distant ranges. We offer cheap ammo and bulk ammo deals on the most popular ammo calibers. Mature bulls have heavy bones, dense muscle, and loads of resilience from. This will give you a very good idea of the bulls inside spread. font-family: Arial, sans-serif; border-style: solid; In this case, we have assumed the average muzzle energy for a .280 Remington round is approximately 2790 foot-pounds. Though it's not an extremely popular elk cartridge, there's not a darn reason why you can't go elk hunting with the 280 AI. Bulls scoring 350-380 . It is not a .35 Whelen. Mag. numbers hitting .590 or so, keep velocities at 3,000 fps with carefully built handloads, and 300-yard drop is only 2.3 inches, wind deflection 4.7 inches, retained energy 2,700 ft-lb. Use them in commercial designs under lifetime, perpetual & worldwide rights. This bull grossed 305 and netted 298. For the second, I am prolly on my own, eh? Like other members of the deer family, the antlers of bull elk grow during spring and summer beneath a hairy skin covering known as velvet. 169.204.214.73 Is the main beam really 50 or is it 53? Ive taken as many bull elk with the .300 Win. The 300-inch curse has plagued piles of public-land hunters chasing elk in the West. border-color: #656565; Estimate the distance between the end of one ear and the beam and double it. That topped the previous mark of 409 7/8 taken by Dana Foster of Ogallala in Garden County in 2008. Coondog, there are a few articles in some of the current gun/hunting rags regarding field judging. So why is it included? The outfitter only takes 3 or 4 hunters per week, September 7 to 12, 18 to 23 and October 5 to 10 giving the ranch a rest between hunts. The 9 pointer scored 135 2/8 inches SCI. However, the goal of this article is simply to address the question of whether the .280 Remington is within the ideal range of suitable calibers to harvest elk. Our website lists special deals on 9mm Ammo, 10mm Ammo, 45-70 Ammo, 6.5 Creedmoor ammo, 300 Blackout Ammo, 10mm Ammo, 5.56 Ammo, Underwood Ammo, Buffalo Bore Ammo and more special deals on bulk ammo. The .338 Win. But seriously, the way to judge them is to score their frame and points just like you would a typical 66, then size up the non typical points and add that to your total. Not too hard, not too soft, not too fast, not too slow, but just right because it shoots mid-caliber .284-inch diameter bullets. The second method requires you to actually break the elk down and measure him by estimating actual point and beam length, mass and inside spread. border-width: 1px; They were grouping well under MOA, too from a 5-pound rifle! A cartridge that starts a slippery bullet with plenty of speed provides flat trajectories and maximum wind-bucking ability. Still, any .37-caliber pushing 250- to 300-grain bullets faster than about 2,500 fps is going to lead to copious amounts of skinning and packing. The question is, are detached retinas worth it? I can make a 280 bull look a lot better with the right pose. However, since the 2007 advent of the 6.5 Creedmoor, theyve taken the target and hunting world by storm. The action you just performed triggered the security solution. overflow: hidden; As stated previously, Kentucky's current herd numbers about 10,000 elk. Duck and goose hunters worry that unguided waterfowl hunting in Manitoba could eventually become a thing of the past for most Americans, Sometimesunder some circumstanceshunting is hard to explain. } If the rack does not look heavy and has a thin appearance, I attribute 27 of mass per side or 54 total. border-color: black; Finally, go back to the main beam, mass and inside spread. Look for good curve in the G1, G2, & G3 points. Notice that 6 thirds would make a 350 type bull that should have 12 or better thirds, a 338 bull. Some bulls may vary from this, but these are very realistic of what you will see on mature 66 bulls. Ive just shown that its no faster than the .300 Win. 422 inch elk) he took this whitetail deer. These measurements can vary widely depending on where you put the tape. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. The 7 WSM and 7 SAUM just about match it in handier short action rifles. In pure engineering terms, the 30 Nosler is the best of the entire flock of 30-caliber magnums. The 225-grain load in an eight-pound rifle should generate about 40.8 ft-lb of recoil energy. With that said, we have assumed the average hunting distance for elk to be approximately 200 yards. My picks for the best elk hunting calibers are what I consider the best, not the most popular. What is the average muzzle energy for a .280 Remington? Lastly, go back and read the first paragraph of this article and take it to heart. font-size: 18px; Well, bullet weight, perhaps? Some come in ultralight rifles for easy mountain hunting, some in extra heavy platforms for stand hunting or longer range shooting. font-family: Arial, sans-serif; .284-inch bullet or a 180-gr. It will take 3 trips at 97 lbs per trip, 4 trips at 73 lbs per trip and 5 trips at 58 lbs per trip. font-size: 14px; Buy and sell new and used guns online from anywhere in the world on Guns International, including pistols, shotguns, rifles, handguns, revolvers, ammo and more. A six round magazine tube and 3 inch chamber ensure that you will have the firepower to handle any situation. The first method is to air judge also known as the wing-it approach, which is based on experience and prior knowledge. Please email us if you have questions about any of our product listings. What about the other assumptions? Here's why. This review can help with that. A 360+ inch giant eats dirt in this web edition of Eastmans' Hunting TV. With the draw results out in the western states there are many hunters celebrating their good fortune in the draw. Ditto the .416s, 44s, and 45s. Before the 6.5 Creedmoor was born, this was my favorite cartridge for any recoil-sensitive shooters. border-collapse: collapse; Las Vegas, NV 89113. bullets with B.C. Our Genetics are improving each year and our antler average is getting bigger each year. vertical-align: top The .264 topped out at 140-grains. Here's a bunch from 300 to 400+ SCI scoring ones. Many times we hunters get overly caught up with trophy hunting. What was amazing was that this trophy elk had grown to this size on the worst drought and growth year that anyone could remember in Arizona. border-color: black; Recoil is light, and reach is outstanding. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Ask yourself if the bull is young or mature, then move on. Any bull that has a solid 200 inch base and no visible weaknesses is usually a 340 or better bull using this system. For excessively rugged, steep-canyon elk country such as Idahos River Of No Return wilderness, such a rifle could mean the difference between steaks and tag soup. vertical-align: top The 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm-08 Remington, and .308 Winchester rifles have 22-inch barrels. Is the .280 Remington a viable caliber/load/round/cartridge for elk hunting? Distance, of course, plays an important role in the viability of a given caliber in elk hunting. Once you have this base to start from you simply start adding a bullstine lengths to 200. text-align: center; Mag., and you understand why its not just the most popular .300 magnum of all time, but one of the best all-round elk calibers of all time. Its not my all-time favorite elk cartridge, but its a really, really close second. Might not make any record books but will be a good looking trophy to mount. Download Bull Elk Close Up stock photos. Mag. No rough-and-tough manly man in the 1960s was going to admit he couldnt handle that. Tags 2015 Elk Hunt Colorado Elk Hunt Eastmans Ike Eastman About Ike Eastman For somebody from TN who doesbt get to see elk except on tv and in mags it sure would make it hard to judge one in the field. No idea why the pic is upside down.just flip your phone. We have three other primary assumptions being made here. Assumnig it is not deformed,anything with 7-8 inch 5th & 6th and bigger 4ths is going to put you there. Keep in mind that very few bulls are wider than 45 inside. This is my brothers bull from 2003, grosses right at 295. As a result, we put too much pressure on ourselves to kill a bull that scores X amount. This short-fat, looking remarkably similar to the 6.8 Western, adds around 200 fps to the best Creedmoor speeds, and that lets you shoot the same bullets with less drop, less wind deflection, and more energy on target. Mag. Of course, there is a great shortcut for judging bulls that uses anatomical references, but instead of trying to estimate each measurement individually, I use a magic number for the main beam length, mass, and inside spread and then I compare the length of the points from one side to the other and estimate shortest points. Mag. Or even ten. but doesnt kick as hard. The easier the terrain, the heavier the hunting rifle youll be able to tolerate. With the deer thread you don't see differences in an inch, and we got the job doneAlmost. No other elk cartridge offers the combination of style and performance like the .300 Weatherby does. Add in the lighter recoil of the .300 Win. The final arbiters of the Best elk calibers are you and the elk, but here are my top five that I chose for their balance of power, reach, recoil, trajectory (drop and drift,) availability, affordability in reasonably compact, light, mountain ready rifles. Most bulls that I see either have weak 3rds or weak 5ths. Everybody wants a 400 inch bull elk, but that isn't really a realistic expectation. thanks coondog Aug 10, 2005 #2 Tom New member Joined Jan 22, 2001 Messages 4,985 Location San Antonio, Texas, USA Here's a bunch from 300 to 400+ SCI scoring ones. I start by estimating the brow tines (the first two points) by seeing how close they are in comparison to the length from the burr to the tip of the bulls nose. Advertisement. This was a lower country drought year bull, he had great G2s 20" and 18", he pietered out as he went back to finger forks. 6630 Arroyo Springs St., Suite 1200 Ive made this mistake before and regretted it. Certainly the .270s and 6.5mms can and do take elk annually, but one would be hard pressed to recommend them as optimum. Notice by comparing these classes of bulls that misjudging a couple of points by a couple of inches will affect the accuracy of your score. I wouldn't hesitate to use my .280 140 gr AccuBond load on elk either. Heres what to do when you run up against non typicals or bulls such as 77s. I decided to cross reference my anatomical measurements with Clay Goldman of Mogollon Taxidermy. One grosses about 315 and I can't recall exactly, but the other is in the 260-270 range. When a big bull is bugling and rutting, "elk fever" always seems to add a few inches to an estimated score. Mag. Choosing one of them comes down to personal preference and the kinds of rifles one likes to carry. It has nice tails but the 4 is a little short as well as the 3. Comments have to be approved before showing up, 2021 Foundry Outdoors - All Rights Reserved, Product successfully added to your Shopping Cart, 223 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 243 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 25 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 300 RSAUM Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum Ammo, 7mm RSAUM Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum Ammo, .280 Remington for Elk Hunting? or .264 Win. Throw the excellent 32 calibers into the mix, the .325 WSM and 8mm Rem. Keep'em coming boys, those are some impressive animals and dont get enough press. The reason is because Im not that interested in net scores. Zero both three inches high at 100 yards and at 400 yards they both drop 11.3 inches and deflect about 8.5 inches in that 10 mph breeze. At the light end is the .338 Federal, the .308 Winchester case necked up. In eight-pound rifles, the 7mm Rem. Bull elk antlers are typically referenced by the number of tines, with each side referenced separately. Not the greatest picture but that's around 300". can be laid at the feet of the shooter or the bullet used. Mag. The main beams will just barely reach his withers. When a bull is broadside, you can compare his fourth point to that measurement. case. Dozens of indignant elk hunters sent up a wail when the first elk cartridges article went live on F&Sbecause I hadnt included their .300 RUM favorite. If you need to balance reach and punch with minimal weight, Id look to the 7mm magnums pushing 150- to 175-grain bullets. But dont try to punch a raking shot through a bulls hipit doesnt have the juice for that. Built into a titanium short action with a 20-inch Proof Research carbon fiber barrel and a McMillan Edge stock, it will weigh under six. Not that its a better choice; its just extremely common, and yes, its pretty darned good at making meat. A 300 class bull usually has eye guards and brow tines that are less that the diatance from his eyes to the end of his nose. If a Berger (hunting) VLD from a 7mm Rem mag can effectively kill bull elk with enough downrange velocity and energy out to 900 yards (with the right optics of course), as I`ve seen on TV, then certainly a 280 Rem can do the job within all reported (long and short) AVERAGE hunting distances for elk, which are mostly all within 500 yards. cannot measure up to the .338 Win. Thats good enough for 3,500 ft-lb muzzle punch. Nonsense. After those stalwarts comes a blizzard of .30-calibers that claw their way up the power scale. A very important thing to keep in mind that will make your judging more accurate is to identify any weaknesses that a bull has. Ammo is easier to find in a greater variety of bullet weights and styles, too. The final way to judge is through the Estimating Shortest Points Magic 200 Method. Mag. The immediate success of the 7mm Rem. Add these to the base of 200 for your total of 344. Click to reveal But look at the length of the 4's. Home Accommodations Photos/Sizes Pricing Reviews . I understand what you are saying Bobmuley, but 5" could make or break a record book bull. Mag. Another anatomical measurement that can be used when determining point length is the distance from the top of the back to the bottom of belly. The kinetic energy of the projectile drops dramatically the further downrange it travels primarily due to energy lost in the form of heat generated by friction against the air itself. Use enough gun, enough caliber, and enough cartridge and bullet to invite them to dinner. Check back next week when I go into even more detail and provide indepth examples on field judging elk. Cartridge means the case that holds the powder that drives the bullet. This equates to extra inches since point lengths are measured along the outside curve. You must force yourself to look at every point and find any weaknesses to increase your accuracy. While growing up in the early 1960s, I lived next to the federal elk refuge in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. But the .338 Win. This is going to be a very close estimate for most big bulls and serves as our solid starting point. Although the 7mm-06 wildcat had been in existence for . 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